I recently hesitated when I wrote the phrase “look no further,” referring to a search for Thanksgiving recipes. Was that correct? I thought back to the old rule reminding me that farther meant physical distance and further, well it’s different, but I couldn’t remember exactly why.
Jump to Grammarly, which explains it in detail, yet I’m still a little confused. Here is what seems clear to me about further and farther:
Farther connotes distance, but it can also refer to a more advanced point.
Both further and farther are adverbs, but further can also be a verb, as in, “She furthered her career” as well as an adjective, such as, “pursuing further information.” Still okay, but now things get murky:
Grammarly poses the question, “How do the definitions of farther and further overlap? Can you use further or farther away in the same way?” The answer:
“Some usage guides disagree, but both terms have been used interchangeably to describe physical distance.”
The following examples of confused me even more:
“The further from one another, the nearer one can be.”—August Strindberg, The Road to Damascus
“I have come home at last! This is my real country! I belong here. This is the land I have been looking for all my life, though I never knew it till now . . . Come further up, come further in!” —C. S. Lewis, The Last Battle
I felt a little better after I read further (haha, get it?).
The Chicago Manual of Style defers to Webster’s 11th Collegiate Dictionary, which says:
“Farther and further have been used more or less interchangeably throughout most of their history, but currently they are showing signs of diverging. As adverbs they continue to be used interchangeably whenever spatial, temporal, or metaphorical distance is involved. But where there is no notion of distance, further is used.”
Their final tip is to remember that only further means moreover.
I’m probably going to do what I usually do when I’m unsure of correct usage, which is to rewrite the sentence so I don’t have to deal with it!
Do you have the further/farther rule down? What’s your secret?
By the way, when I ran the Spelling & Grammar check on this post, Microsoft Word gave me a 90%. That’s one of their new, annoying features.
I’ll leave you with one of my favorite Jackson Browne songs, Farther On.
Thanks for visiting—come back soon!
The Chicago Manual of Style’s explanation is what I’ve experienced. Personally, I grew up with people saying “farther” for distance and “further” for metaphorical distance or an unknown distance down the road. So that’s the way that seems most natural to me.
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Yeah… me too!
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I’m with you both although I sometimes use the avoidance strategy!
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That’s a great way to explain it, Priscilla. Thanks for stopping by and commenting 🙂
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Always appreciate the grammar lessons, BCM. 🙂
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But of course, MS Word only gave me a 90% so I have more to learn…;)
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Haha. 🙂
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Great question, Barbara – I’ve usually used farther for distance and further for moreover. But mostly I just use whatever sounds right in that particular sentence. 😀
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That’s the way to go, Donna! Thanks for the visit 🙂
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To simplify: I remember that “FARther” refers to distance. Then “the other one” (further) denotes a more advanced point. If you explain more than that to students, their heads begin to spin. Interesting you mention that one source uses the two words interchangeably. I guess language continues to be in flux.
Thanks for the grammar lesson, Barbara. 😀
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That’s a good basic rule. Better to ignore the variants or for me, just rewrite the sentence! Thanks for reading and commenting, Marian.
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I can NEVER remember grammar lessons so I pretend that words are fluid and I take poetic license and use what ‘sounds’ right to me 😂. But, sometimes when I am utterly unsure I do a little research. 😉
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It’s a happier way to live, Colleen! 🙂
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It sure is 😉
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Your explanation is how I learned the difference between “further” and “farther.”
Still, there are times I need to think twice when using them!
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Yes, I try to remember, but I will say, having the internet at my fingertips helps! Thanks for the visit, Eden!
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Interesting post! Thanks. 🙂
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Thank you, Lynette!
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When in doubt, I find another way to compose the sentence in question.
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We think alike, Rosaliene! Thank you for reading and commenting 🙂
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I agree with you, Barbara. I know that you can easily come across some examples that use further and farther differently from what we think is right, but that might just be because they didn’t get a good editor. Also, CMS frequently says some things are acceptable simply because they have given up trying to stop people from misusing them. (That’s just my humble opinion – not based on anything I know for sure – but I do see that often. They knuckle under because so many people continue to ignore correct grammar.) FARther for things that involve distance. FURther – think “furthermore.” Thanks for this post. Well done.
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I like to follow the rules, but in the end, you can’t be too judgmental, especially if the point is made effectively, bad grammar or not. I think you may be right about CMS deeming some things acceptable because of widespread misuse. I don’t worry about it too much, except I was an English major in college and I don’t want that to be thrown back at me – haha! Thank you for reading and commenting 🙂
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They are eroding the language and I’m digging my heels in where I can, but I can see the writing (mistakes and all) on the wall.
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I suppose I use what sounds right without much further thought
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Good one, Derrick 😉
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I’m with Derrick; I tend not to agonise, or agonize – oh, sod it – I don’t worry about it that much. But it is always intriguing to ponder on…
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True words! Thank you for stopping by 🙂
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I am bad with further/farther. I am also bad with fewer/less. I want to write clearly using them, but I also know that re-writing a sentence works well too. Or asking my husband, he understands their nuances.
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We all have our workarounds! Thanks for reading, Ally 🙂
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Definitely a conundrum, but I use farther when there is some physical distance involved.
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Ha! It seems like the more grammar you know, the more you hesitate sometimes. I’m sure I make plenty of grammatical blunders without even hesitating! :o)
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Thanks for sharing, Barbara! This is one of those grammatical conundrums that I always have to look up!
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Hi Barbara, I have never used farther in my entire life. I have never heard it used or read it other than in classic books.
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Great post 😊
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I Loved this!
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Thanks for reblogging!
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My pleasure! I’ll probably do a few of the others as well.
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I appreciate it very much! 😊
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I’m not great with grammar and like you when I’m not quite sure if I’m using a word correctly I just replace it so I don’t have to deal with it!
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